[BNM] Sick of be broadband

[Alastair James]

> Local Loop unbundled services such as 02/BE and Tiscali LLU can't be
> affected by BT reported congestion. The LLU ers have their own equipment
> in the exchange and also their own links to their networks rather than
> BT's old ATM network (or indeed BT's new 21st Century Network).

Thanks for that. I did not know any of that.

> If you had a BT retail or BT wholesale provided service then the move to
> 21CN will allow BT to share huge pipes into the exchange with their
> voice traffic and thus make an instantaneous upgrade to broadband
> capacity rather than adding dedicated links as they do now.

Would that suggest that a move to a BT based ISP would be a good idea
after 21CN is installed?

> Be/O2 are cheap as chips, so if you are unhappy with the response you
> get then getting a better service will cost a significant % more from
> virtually anyone else and probably run slower albeit more consistently.

Hmmm... I dont see Be unlimited (£18/month) as cheap as chips, in fact
I would go as far to say thats almost a premium price range (although
o2 is of course).... They used to be superb...

Al

2009/3/2 Richard Grimwood <richard.grimwood at moving-edge.net>:
> Alastair James wrote:
>> Ok, so nildram says hove is a very congested exchange, so I guess this
>> may be the exchange rather than the ISP. So unless I move to Virgin
>> cable, there is little that can be done?
>
> Local Loop unbundled services such as 02/BE and Tiscali LLU can't be
> affected by BT reported congestion. The LLU ers have their own equipment
> in the exchange and also their own links to their networks rather than
> BT's old ATM network (or indeed BT's new 21st Century Network).
>
> If you had a BT retail or BT wholesale provided service then the move to
> 21CN will allow BT to share huge pipes into the exchange with their
> voice traffic and thus make an instantaneous upgrade to broadband
> capacity rather than adding dedicated links as they do now.
>
> This is a red herring, for you, as far as I can see.
> You need to specify the problem you have with pings / traceroutes time
> of day it happens and expample. If it is problem with your line get Be
> to fix it. In the end you may just help them demonstrate the problem is
> within your control (router, settings, wifi, cabling).
>
> Be/O2 are cheap as chips, so if you are unhappy with the response you
> get then getting a better service will cost a significant % more from
> virtually anyone else and probably run slower albeit more consistently.
> I can't see moving to virgin as a step up  IMHO.
>
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