[BNM] finding work and london Based IT consultants.

[Chris Billett]

I believe you asked me if you can add me due to a similar conversation  
on this list Mark, and I said feel free to send me contracts in events  
technology over a certain figure. I've not received one yet? Don't  
think I work in the Computer People's industries anymore. I was also  
probably being polite, and giving you the benefit of the doubt. One  
thing I am sure of is that it isn't information that should be given  
out on a public list by any company, regardless of the conversation,  
though. :)

As I said from the beginning, I think Computer People are far from the  
worst agencies, but I wouldn't recommend using any. I've certainly had  
a lot more money in my wallet since I set my own (fair, I think) rates  
and targeted companies who care about who they employ and use personal  
references or word of mouth. I guess that's a benefit of my industry,  
though.

On 16 Jan 2009, at 16:33, Standen, Mark wrote:

> And we know at least 20000 contractors that are delighted with the
> services....
>
> And Chris, I believe you registered with us late 2008!
>
> Cheers and have a great weekend one and all
>
> For us its all about good service as it's the only way for us to be
> successful - granted not all are as good or as caring as us, but hey  
> not
> all freelancers as as good as they say they are - such is life.
>
> Peace
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bnmlist-bounces at brightonnewmedia.org
> [mailto:bnmlist-bounces at brightonnewmedia.org] On Behalf Of Chris  
> Billett
> Sent: 16 January 2009 16:27
> To: Brighton New Media
> Subject: Re: [BNM] finding work and london Based IT consultants.
>
> Please do listen to the negativity. This list is about sharing
> experience, not hiding facts... and it was also Computer People that I
> was with. Sorry, I wasn't going to mention that, but... I'm sure  
> they've
> changed recently. At that time, they wouldn't declare their margins
> because they didn't want to negotiate them (2005/6) - but a letter  
> with
> my rates was mistakenly delivered to me instead of my boss after a  
> year
> and a half. Fortunately my client paid the release fee for me to
> freelance directly when I said I wouldn't go through them, and I've  
> not
> looked back since.
>
> It wasn't you of course, so don't take this as a personal attack. In
> fact, my agent has left the company and set up his own. So I recommend
> not going with his! But seriously... I don't know a whole lot of  
> people
> who talk positively about their agents/agencies, and I know a whole  
> lot
> of freelancers who don't use them and are very happy about it.
>
> On 16 Jan 2009, at 16:00, Standen, Mark wrote:
>
>> Don't listen to the negativity - everyone needs to earn a living - we
>> have master vendor agreements with the biggest names in the UK and
>> typically work to a fixed and open margin per deal with our clients -
>> Agreements with our clients are agreed and the contract with you
>> is/would be adventagous to all.....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark Standen
>> Principal Consultant
>> Computer People
>> Tel:  01293 554223
>> Fax: 01293 554225
>> Mob: 07960 913 514
>> www.computerpeople.com
>> 2-4 Queensway, Crawley, West Sussex, RH10 1EJ
>> LinkedIn      LinkedIn UK 1st Million Members - (IV)
>> Computer People has been the UK's leading IT recruitment specialist
>> since 1972. We're one of the Sunday Times' '100 Best Companies to  
>> Work
>
>> For' and part of Adecco, a global leader in consulting, managed
>> services and speciality staffing.
>> MAKE A REFERRAL. EARN A REWARD.
>> If we place a candidate you've recommended to us, we'll thank you  
>> with
>
>> a generous reward. Ask your consultant for more details on Computer
>> People's Referral Rewards.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bnmlist-bounces at brightonnewmedia.org
>> [mailto:bnmlist-bounces at brightonnewmedia.org] On Behalf Of Chris
>> Billett
>> Sent: 16 January 2009 15:54
>> To: Brighton New Media
>> Subject: Re: [BNM] finding work and london Based IT consultants.
>>
>> I've never met a recruitment consultant in London that was decent.  
>> I'm
>
>> seriously not joking. The 'friendly' ones that I first went with were
>> taking more than 40% of my salary and didn't return my calls unless I
>> was within a week of ending a contract... and they're one of the
>> recruitment companies with better reputations.
>>
>> For the last three years I've spent the money I would have lost with
>> them networking instead. It's paid off far more. Make some business
>> cards!
>>
>> CB
>>
>> On 16 Jan 2009, at 15:49, andrew holway wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have been consulting in the HPC cluster world for nearly 2 years
>>> and
>>
>>> have learnt a lot about moving, storing and computing stupid volumes
>>> of data. I'm looking to expand my client base but as I'm
>>> contractually
>>
>>> obliged to stay away from supercomputing so I want to find  
>>> commercial
>
>>> clients.
>>>
>>> Any ideas? Anyone know any decent recruitment consultants? I'm
>>> basically a hardware and linux architect.
>>>
>>> I live in london (3 weeks and still surviving)
>>>
>>> Ta
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>
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