[BNM] [_] Passports will be needed to buy mobile phones

[andrew holway]

This stuff is really starting to upset me

I propose everyone who gives a toss meeting up and forming some form
of group to bring this stasi style nonsense to an end.

Please forward this to anyone who you think would be interested. I
think we (IT professionals) are the only people that will be able to
do something about this. Sorry for the cross posting.

Thanks

Andrew

On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Adam <adam.bcn at gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article4969312.ece
>
> Outrageous, of course. "1984" ... "Orwell" ... "surveilance state" ...
> "Big Brother" ... etc. Quite silly, because criminals will just use
> black market or stolen phones. Simiarly, every mail in UK to be
> monitored:
>
> http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/10/15/2222209&from=rss
>
> It's not really as malicous as the people with tin-foil hats make out
> - the best commentry I've heard is from "Biohacker" in
> news.ycombinator.com
>
>> The saddest thing here is that the primary driver for this
>> isn't true malevolence. There's not an underground of
>> fascists working to make fascism happen.
>> This is just bureaucrats trying to cover their asses.
>> Collecting more data is something that you can measure
>> and point to.
>> Look we collected all of this!
>> Never mind the fact that the real difficulty is in
>> distinguishing the noise from the signal.
>> And the more data you collect the harder that gets.
>> Never mind the fact the CIA was watching the 9/11
>> guys cross from Canada into the US, and called the FBI
>> and told them.
>> Never mind that there were FBI agents who were trying
>> to get someone's attention because they knew there
>> was something fishy with all those guys taking flight lessons.
>> Never mind that clearly the problem was not a lack
>> of data collection.
>> Never mind all that because doing the smart thing is
>> hard and proving you're doing something by being
>> smart is impossible.
>> But data collection is easy and it's easy to prove
>> you're doing all you can.
> -- http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=334452
>
> If you want, there's a petition against this here:
>
> http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/no-to-1984/
>
> ~Adam
>
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