[BNM] [OT] Rap Diagrams, Was: vista woes.. again

[Antony Jones]

Venn diagrams, that's the one!

Reminds me of this. What a site!

http://www.jamphat.com/rap/

Ant

On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 11:00 +0100, Rus Hughes wrote:
> You're thinking of venn diagrams. Also, disk space is cheap. Needless 
> patching and bugs are why extraneous software really is an issue.
> 
> Antony Jones wrote:
> >> Not at all: Windows Server 2008 installs with a wonderful minimalism
> >>     
> >
> > I seem to remember it having a GUI. And a Web Browser. And a media
> > player?! and all sorts of other crap which makes it usable as a Desktop
> > OS. What headless machine needs a GUI?
> >
> > Doesn't matter if it's enabled, the fact that it's on the machine
> > bothers me, taking up space. Why?
> >
> > For me, a desktop and server OS should have very few similarities, as
> > they are completely different use-cases. I forget what those graphs are
> > called with the funny translucent circles which overlap eachother, but
> > i'd see one of those with two very seperate circles. Only when you start
> > installing the desktop as a development box should you be seeing them
> > converge.
> >
> >   
> >> http://www.win2008workstation.com/wordpress/ if you want to make it
> >> desktop-friendly.
> >>     
> >
> > In my _opinion_, Linux is the only desktop friendly OS. I don't have the
> > patience or time for Windows.
> >
> > This email is only opinion by the way. I don't want to be shot down in
> > flames by people for going against the grain, if using Linux even
> > classifies as against the grain anymore. This is just how I feel, and it
> > is borne of massive knowledge and experience of using Windows (anything
> > pre vista), before I get re-shot down.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Ant
> >
> > On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 18:26 +0100, Stuart Dunkeld wrote:
> >   
> >> Not at all: Windows Server 2008 installs with a wonderful minimalism
> >> which is the exact opposite of Vista: you enable what you want, and
> >> only that. For example, wireless networking isn't enabled by default,
> >> neither is IIS or Aero. Not only that, but a Google search shows it
> >> available for £80 including VAT
> >> (http://www.eurowide-pc.co.uk/microsoft-windows-2008-server-user-cals-p-30324.html)
> >> which is less than Vista anyway!
> >>
> >> There are lots of details at
> >> http://www.win2008workstation.com/wordpress/ if you want to make it
> >> desktop-friendly.
> >>
> >> Some applications will refuse to install on a server OS, can't think
> >> of any offhand but I expect AV would be picky.
> >>
> >> Stuart
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Antony Jones <antonyj at gamesys.co.uk> wrote:
> >>     
> >>> The fact that a server OS works well as a desktop OS with only "very
> >>> slight" config rings alarm bells with me immediately.
> >>>
> >>> Bloated server OS anyone?
> >>>
> >>> Ant
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 13:02 +0100, wayne wrote:
> >>>       
> >>>> :)
> >>>>
> >>>>         
> >>>>> Does anyone else run Server 2008 on their desktop?  Am now seriously
> >>>>> considering it, but feel sure there must be some disadvantages apart
> >>>>>           
> >>>> >from the lack of flowery guff.
> >>>>
> >>>> It's been all good for me but then I just use it to do dev on - no real
> >>>> media rich stuff or anything like that - you need to config it to remove
> >>>> some of the security where it's a bit para for a desktop OS and add some
> >>>> roles etc to get media player going etc - but other than that - smooth
> >>>> sailing.
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: bnmlist-bounces at brightonnewmedia.org
> >>>> [mailto:bnmlist-bounces at brightonnewmedia.org] On Behalf Of Catherine
> >>>> Pope
> >>>> Sent: 16 June 2008 12:46
> >>>> To: Brighton New Media
> >>>> Subject: Re: [BNM] vista woes.. again
> >>>>
> >>>> Perhaps Microsoft should adopt "stable as f*ck and fast as lightning"
> >>>> as their new strapline.
> >>>>
> >>>> Does anyone else run Server 2008 on their desktop?  Am now seriously
> >>>> considering it, but feel sure there must be some disadvantages apart
> >>>> from the lack of flowery guff.
> >>>>
> >>>> TIA
> >>>>
> >>>> Catherine
> >>>>
> >>>> 2008/6/16 wayne <wayne at codingvista.com>:
> >>>>         
> >>>>> Vista is pants compared to server 2008 - I have no idea what goes on
> >>>>>           
> >>>> but
> >>>>         
> >>>>> the server desktops are always much better - none of the flowery guff
> >>>>> and animation but stable as fuck and fast as lightning. If you have a
> >>>>> few grand spare I recommend it!! Grrrr haha
> >>>>>
> >>>>>           
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