[BNM] Joomla vs Drupal vs other open source CMS?
Chris Adams
chris at fibonacci-designs.co.uk
Wed Jul 9 09:21:19 BST 2008
Hey All,
My initial Q was specifically about Joomla & which eCommerce extension
to use but it seems to have developed into a question more along the
lines of "what CMS to train in?" for scaleability, flexibility,
accessibility standards compliance, *ease of use* & optional extras...
Any advice greatly appreciated.
Chris
Steve Purkiss wrote:
> Well from a drupal point of view many big names use it and the
> founder's just got millions investment for consultancy/support
> business around it.
>
> Lots of big names use it like Sony - I'm currently working on Mazda's
> http://www.wearetriathlon.co.uk which uses it, and an ecommerce site
> using ubercart but can't name the client right now.
>
> I'd say if you're looking to grow any community features around the
> ecommerce then drupal/ubercart is a good start, and not really that
> hard to set up if you rtfm ;)
>
> Again, can't speak from the joomla side as not used it much.
>
> But as they say, play with a few and see how they work with you then
> weigh up the options and select the one which fits your needs best.
>
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Chris Adams
> <chris at fibonacci-designs.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> thanks guys - that makes my decision easier ;]
>> I've integrated blogger and to some degree wordpress but they're lacking
>> the ability to drop in ecommerce & other plugins. also they're a little
>> basic - as they are of course aimed at just blogging - time and date
>> specific stuff. I don't want to give myself a complete headache but I do
>> need to have something that is scaleable and perhaps most importantly
>> something that holds a continued relevance in the future as a well
>> recognised cms... if i really need to put serious time into something
>> then i'll have to bite the bullet but my reservation of just jumping
>> into something is whether it'll still be relevant and progressive in
>> years to come.
>> in a slight quandry now as to what to do... any more help out there?!!
>>
>> Steve Purkiss wrote:
>>
>>> Hehe - I could easily say the same for Drupal ;)
>>>
>>> As you say, the right system is the one that works best for you (or
>>> your client if it's for some commercial work).
>>>
>>> Often that's not necessarily the best solution technically speaking
>>> (otherwise I'd be happily playing with my successor to the Atari
>>> Jaguar right now!) but that's just life I guess...
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Simon Early <simon.early at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Joomla is a beast.
>>>> it does everything, but you might not actually want to go through all that
>>>> learning curve/pain.
>>>> I've used it for years but it' NOT for everyone.
>>>> figure out what you want it to do, then look around.
>>>> I have found equally good solutions with wordpress and some ecommerce
>>>> plugins for example .
>>>>
>>>> comes back to the age-old saying - the best system is one you will actually
>>>> use.
>>>> Joomla is vast, and complex. avoid unless you want to have an enormous beast
>>>> to handle.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2008/7/8 Steve Purkiss <steve at purkiss.com>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I think Drupal will be worth the extra effort to learn but you don't
>>>>> need to be able to code to upload and enable modules and change
>>>>> configuration settings.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Chris Adams
>>>>> <chris at fibonacci-designs.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks for that steve... are you talking from the perspective of a php
>>>>>> developer or basic front end chap like myself? would that have an impact
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> on
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> your 2p's worth?!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve Purkiss wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Surprisingly enough my vote's for Drupal ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I found Joomla good for catalogue-esque sites but didn't really get
>>>>>>> into it heavily as lots of modules were not free, thus not open, thus
>>>>>>> I'm not going anywhere near them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ubercart & Drupal standard setup takes about 30 mins first time so
>>>>>>> worth a go, give us a shout if you get stuck.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just my 2p...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Chris Adams
>>>>>>> <chris at fibonacci-designs.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I suppose that leads me onto the question Drupal or Joomla??
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Steve Purkiss wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not sure about Joomla but I user http://www.ubercart.org/ with
>>>>>>>>> http://drupal.org which provides a great solution for CMS &
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> ecommerce.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Chris Adams
>>>>>>>>> <chris at fibonacci-designs.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>> I'm about to dip my toes into Joomla with an idea to creating a CMS
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> an eCommerce site. I know I have a steep learning curve so thought
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> I'd
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ask if there was a general consensus on the *best* eCommerce
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> extension
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and if poss any tips on what to do and what not to do to start
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> learning
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Joomla...
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>> ps my knowledge extends to front end web design (trans xhtml & css),
>>>>>>>>>> actinic eCommerce, & various other odds and sods...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Chris Adams
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Web Design & eCommerce Manager
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>> Chris Adams
>>
>> Web Design & eCommerce Manager
>>
>>
>>
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>> web: www.fibonacci-designs.co.uk <http://www.fibonacci-designs.co.uk/>
>>
>> email: chris at fibonacci-designs.co.uk <mailto:chris at fibonacci-designs.co.uk>
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