[BNM] Death to s/facebook/fedbook and the great CIA socialdatamining exercise

[Chris Billett]

Yup, exactly. I wasn't trying to just sound like an arsehole, I meant that
them not seeming to be coming for you can mean that they haven't got to
your door yet (like the poem) or that, well... they aren't coming for your
door... which I think is quite likely the case with Facebook.

> I believe that exactly the point of the poem - they're never seem to
> be coming for you until "they" break down your door.
>
> I was merely chiming in with Andrews note about what happens when
> things start going wrong.  e.g. the McCarthy-ite purges where being a
> one time member of the communist party, something which was previously
> not illegal and was previously quite acceptable, suddenly becomes
> something that makes you appear to be a "threat".
>
> Of course it doesn't have a huge amount to do with getting an account
> deleted from facebook - unless you found yourself suddenly living in a
> theocracy and your religious profile said something other than "true
> believer".
>
> On 04/01/2008, Chris Billett <chris at chrisbillett.net> wrote:
>> As niec and poignant as that poem is, it's not particularly appropriate,
>> and they're not going to be coming for me unless vast natural gas and
>> oil
>> reserves suddenly and unexpectedly spring up underneath Clarendon
>> Road...
>> and even then, there are things far more important than whether or not
>> the
>> feds know that my (occasionally inaccurate) relationship status is still
>> set to single.
>>
>> Besides, if they find oil under my flat I'll just accept Shell's friend
>> request and retire to a beach in Micronesia. It's Web 3.0, baby!
>>
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came...
>> >
>> > On 04/01/2008, andrew holway <andrew at moonet.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> The problems start when the world start going a bit wrong. However
>> >> unlikely you think this is, when you are arrested for crimes against
>> >> the USA and they know who you are, who your friends are. All helpful
>> >> ammo if they want to bend you to their will.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Jan 4, 2008 9:21 AM, Bruce Boughton <bruce.boughton at madgex.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > To be honest, if the feds are watching me, then they are going to
>> be
>> >> > seriously bored. So let them watch... I'd be more concerned about
>> >> > identify thieves watching me than the CIA.
>> >> >
>> >> > Bruce Boughton
>> >> > Software Developer
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.madgex.com/ - We're hiring!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > > From: bnmlist-bounces at brightonnewmedia.org [mailto:bnmlist-
>> >> > > bounces at brightonnewmedia.org] On Behalf Of Dave Phelan
>> >> > > Sent: 04 January 2008 13:50
>> >> > > To: Brighton New Media
>> >> > > Subject: Re: [BNM] Death to s/facebook/fedbook and the great CIA
>> >> > > socialdatamining exercise
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> > > On Jan 4, 2008 1:04 PM, Nick Wilsdon <n.wilsdon at e3internet.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > > > Although they have a lot of factual information agencies are
>> >> > > surprisingly
>> >> > > > thin on the ground when it comes to your viewpoints and
>> political
>> >> > > outlook
>> >> > > > (i.e. how you think and where your loyalties are regarding
>> certain
>> >> > > issues).
>> >> > > > They also need to research associations/friends. This is mostly
>> >> done
>> >> > > in real
>> >> > > > life by surveillance, questioning friends/integrating into your
>> >> > > social group
>> >> > > > and email/phone tapping. Social apps can provide a lot of this
>> >> > > information
>> >> > > > very easily without this work needing to be done.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Traffic Analysis.
>> >> > > If the feds are watching you, they're watching who you phone,
>> text,
>> >> > > email, spend money with, etc.
>> >> > > No need for all this James Bond infiltration...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > BTW: I am not a fed.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Dave Ph
>> >> > >
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