[BNM] Death to s/facebook/fedbook and the great CIA socialdatamining exercise

[John Montgomery]

I believe that exactly the point of the poem - they're never seem to
be coming for you until "they" break down your door.

I was merely chiming in with Andrews note about what happens when
things start going wrong.  e.g. the McCarthy-ite purges where being a
one time member of the communist party, something which was previously
not illegal and was previously quite acceptable, suddenly becomes
something that makes you appear to be a "threat".

Of course it doesn't have a huge amount to do with getting an account
deleted from facebook - unless you found yourself suddenly living in a
theocracy and your religious profile said something other than "true
believer".

On 04/01/2008, Chris Billett <chris at chrisbillett.net> wrote:
> As niec and poignant as that poem is, it's not particularly appropriate,
> and they're not going to be coming for me unless vast natural gas and oil
> reserves suddenly and unexpectedly spring up underneath Clarendon Road...
> and even then, there are things far more important than whether or not the
> feds know that my (occasionally inaccurate) relationship status is still
> set to single.
>
> Besides, if they find oil under my flat I'll just accept Shell's friend
> request and retire to a beach in Micronesia. It's Web 3.0, baby!
>
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came...
> >
> > On 04/01/2008, andrew holway <andrew at moonet.co.uk> wrote:
> >> The problems start when the world start going a bit wrong. However
> >> unlikely you think this is, when you are arrested for crimes against
> >> the USA and they know who you are, who your friends are. All helpful
> >> ammo if they want to bend you to their will.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jan 4, 2008 9:21 AM, Bruce Boughton <bruce.boughton at madgex.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > To be honest, if the feds are watching me, then they are going to be
> >> > seriously bored. So let them watch... I'd be more concerned about
> >> > identify thieves watching me than the CIA.
> >> >
> >> > Bruce Boughton
> >> > Software Developer
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > http://www.madgex.com/ - We're hiring!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: bnmlist-bounces at brightonnewmedia.org [mailto:bnmlist-
> >> > > bounces at brightonnewmedia.org] On Behalf Of Dave Phelan
> >> > > Sent: 04 January 2008 13:50
> >> > > To: Brighton New Media
> >> > > Subject: Re: [BNM] Death to s/facebook/fedbook and the great CIA
> >> > > socialdatamining exercise
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > > On Jan 4, 2008 1:04 PM, Nick Wilsdon <n.wilsdon at e3internet.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > > Although they have a lot of factual information agencies are
> >> > > surprisingly
> >> > > > thin on the ground when it comes to your viewpoints and political
> >> > > outlook
> >> > > > (i.e. how you think and where your loyalties are regarding certain
> >> > > issues).
> >> > > > They also need to research associations/friends. This is mostly
> >> done
> >> > > in real
> >> > > > life by surveillance, questioning friends/integrating into your
> >> > > social group
> >> > > > and email/phone tapping. Social apps can provide a lot of this
> >> > > information
> >> > > > very easily without this work needing to be done.
> >> > >
> >> > > Traffic Analysis.
> >> > > If the feds are watching you, they're watching who you phone, text,
> >> > > email, spend money with, etc.
> >> > > No need for all this James Bond infiltration...
> >> > >
> >> > > BTW: I am not a fed.
> >> > >
> >> > > Dave Ph
> >> > >
> >> > > --
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> >> > >  dave.phelan at gmail.com                  http://www.davephelan.org
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