[BNM] Moving from Symfony to Zend

[Raj Anand]

Agreed. For us it was a very difficult decision but one we had to take. We
still have sites in Symfony which obviously we will continue to support.
Heard a lot of good things about Django, maybe worth a try in the near
future.

Hope you are well otherwise ?


Raj

2008/8/13 Mark Ng <mark at markng.me.uk>

> Hi Raj,
>
> I don't believe symfony is anything near a one man operation.  As an
> example, Dustin Whittle of Yahoo is responsible for significant
> portions of the framework (Yahoo have heavily customised symfony
> internally, and, so far as I understand it, he brings the more
> globally useful improvements back into the fold).
>
> However, François himself was a rather critical member, and his
> absence from the project is most heavily felt in the fact that the
> documentation for Symfony 1.1 is significantly less impressive than
> for 1.0 (François was mostly responsible for documentation).  This has
> left the transition to 1.1 from 1.0 a fairly painful one compared to
> the otherwise wonderful experience of using symfony on a day to day
> basis.
>
> This "lack of direction" has led me to finally try Django (and
> therefore python) a bit more seriously (deploying my first live django
> site - http://dordorset.org on it), and I've been impressed in more
> ways than I haven't (if that makes sense).  However, I'm very much of
> the belief that at this moment in time, symfony is still by quite some
> distance the best framework for PHP projects of anything greater than
> "a couple of pages and a small CMS" complexity.  I hope that the
> project finds its way in what appears to be a moderately difficult
> time for it.
>
> Therefore, if you're thinking of changing framework because you're
> unsatisfied with symfony, personally, I'd look to change languages,
> too.  However, that's a very large investment of time for a team of
> people.  As a lone freelancer, I'm lucky enough to be able to do side
> projects that don't have time budgets to meet, and that's where I've
> been trying out new technologies.
>
> I certainly won't be throwing the baby out with the bathwater and
> abandoning symfony completely just yet.
>
> 2008/8/12 Raj Anand <rajeshwar.anand at gmail.com>:
> > The decision has been taken to STOP using Symfony for future projects.
> The
> > reason is well described<
> http://redotheweb.com/2008/05/16/no-one-is-irreplaceable/>by
> > one of the active collaborators of Symfony, François Zaninotto.
> > "Important
> > design choices are not discussed with the community, just like when
> symfony
> > was only developed internally. 95% of the code base is still the result
> of a
> > single man's work and decisions". François has now left Symfony, in his
> own
> > words as he couldn't get his views accepted. Although Symfony has now
> been
> > adopted by Yahoo and is being used by major projects like
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