[BNM] Burma

[paul perrin]

It was just, if you live in poverty as a monk a monastery - how much does it
matter what the political system outside is? Then again - maybe religion
isn't the subject to get onto next(!).

So I'll stick to opposing oppression on principal - and won't worry about
what the oppressed think about it.

Paul

On 02/10/2007, Alan Newman <alan at sensibledevelopment.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Then again being buddest - how bothered about changing
> things are they really
>
> Well according to the BBC they have all been rounded up and are awaiting
> transportation to some place in the north of the country where they will
> be
> detained.
>
> In other news, there are some reports of some dead monks being found in
> rivers....
>
> - Alan
>
>
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> Sent: 02 October 2007 12:13
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> Subject: Re: [BNM] Burma
>
> Has there been a specific image associated with the events? Images tend to
> stick long after the events have faded.
>
> Tiianamen square, had they guy waiting to be run over by a number of tanks
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tianasquare.jpg
> The fall of saddam had those guys hitting the fallen statue with their
> shoes.
> Then there was the self immolating buddhist monk
>
> Maybe the british olympic mascot for the peking games should be a little
> stuffed buddhist monk - (exploding/immolating may be a bit tasteless).
> Mind
> you these guys olympic logo is kind of neat
> http://www.buyhard.fsnet.co.uk/putuporshutup.htm
>
> If the opposition can destabilise the region, then the UN might get off
> their fingers out -- but given mugabes continued reign, I kind of doubt
> it.
> Without outside intervention, its really up to the army - maybe the monks
> should all sign up. Then again being buddest - how bothered about changing
> things are they really?
>
> Paul
>
> On 02/10/2007, Nick Taylor <nick at tangerineworks.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > However on a newmedia topic, I think the ease which people can be
> misled
> > by
> > > plausible looking websites is something that is relevant.
> >
> >
> >
> > True - though some websites are more credible than others - and the
> > Blair Peach (although it was so long ago as to be scarcely relevent)
> > inicident isn't really up for dispute I don't think. It happened -
> > there's no need to give a source.
> >
> >
> > > Regarding Burma, standard chinese tactics isn't it? let the opposition
> > > expose themselves and then they are so much easier to destroy. I
> wonder
> > how
> > > much of it we would know about if it weren't for the interntet? Having
> > said
> > > that, in the end, what difference has it/does it made?
> >
> > It's not over yet. The images of loads of orange-clad monks is pretty
> > iconic as well. The consensus among the ebb and flow of (western)
> > web-commentry seems to revolve around trying to pressure China into
> > doing something, using the Olympics as leverage.
> >
> > It's a tough one I think though - I don't think anything can be done
> > without the dissolution of the ruling Junta... and I can't see that
> > happening without some sort of rebellion from within the military
> itself.
> >
> > Not that I actually know what I'm talking about of course.
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