[BNM] 1, 2, 3, 4, I declare a language war ! (was Hot news: Microsoft buys OScommerce!)

[andrew holway]

I'm not having MS anywhere near my office :-D I wonder how they're
getting along with windows for warships

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/09/06/ams_goes_windows_for_warships/



On 06/07/07, paul perrin <paul at idltd.com> wrote:
> IMV
>
> Horses for courses - MS in the office, LAMP on the net. Many benefits of
> .NET become a liabilty for large public sites. .NET tends to put limits your
> architectural options - if you don't do it the microsoft way then you end up
> writing additional code to work around the 'features and beneifts' that are
> the point of using .NET is the first place.
>
> If you can do what you want to do the MS way - then its probably the best
> way to do it, but if you want something else - avoid it!
>
> Paul /)/+)
>
>
> On 06/07/07, Wayne Douglas <wayne at codingvista.com> wrote:
> >
> > Mark Ng wrote:
> > > On 06/07/07, Wayne Douglas <wayne at codingvista.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> The other thing I like about ASP.NET is the fact that you would have to
> > >> go out of your way to write crap - or be seriously lazy. The fact that,
> > >> unless you wanted to do some rewriting of the wheel, you are pretty
> > much
> > >> forced to use an MVC approach to writing code, which forces nice,
> > >> modular, loosely coupled, consistent code.
> > >>
> > >
> > > This is equally the case using PHP and a good framework.  Symfony is a
> > > good place to start.
> > >
> > >
> > >> PHP - what I've seen of it, looks like ASP classic, tags with code in
> > >> the html etc.
> > >>
> > >
> > > That's as much the case as the person who writes code in it.
> > >
> > >
> > >> Just my (admittedly biased) view.
> > >>
> > >
> > > I'm glad that you see it as biased - I think you're attacking a
> > > technology you have limited experience with (not that PHP doesn't its
> > > flaws - they're just different from the ones you describe).
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> >
> > Hang on - not attacking - defending!!
> >
> > But yeah, it annoys me when someone with no knowledge of a subject (or
> > at least one sided) starts laying down their opinion as if it were
> > gospel. I understand I have holes in my knowledge which is why I think
> > threads like this are good. If there were enough hours in the day I'd be
> > learning every language you could throw at me - as there's not, I have
> > to choose the ones I learn wisely. For me developer efficiency is as
> > important as the efficiency of the software itself. You can throw more
> > hardware at code - I can't throw more developers at my projects. Not
> > that the product suffers, I just need to be able to turn tricks fast.
> > The tricks need to be stable, do what they should and be future proofed.
> > I like coding - I'm a perfectionist with code - the code I write is
> > re-factored to a  good level and is graceful.
> >
> > I read something the other day about a guy who'd lost out because he
> > based his career around Borland. That to me was not a wise move - on
> > multiple levels (Delphi ffs). And though I feel really bad for the guy,
> > to me it was obvious that that was a walking time bomb.
> >
> > :)
> >
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