[BNM] 1, 2, 3, 4, I declare a language war ! (was Hot news: Microsoft buys OScommerce!)

[paul perrin]

IMV

Horses for courses - MS in the office, LAMP on the net. Many benefits of
.NET become a liabilty for large public sites. .NET tends to put limits your
architectural options - if you don't do it the microsoft way then you end up
writing additional code to work around the 'features and beneifts' that are
the point of using .NET is the first place.

If you can do what you want to do the MS way - then its probably the best
way to do it, but if you want something else - avoid it!

Paul /)/+)


On 06/07/07, Wayne Douglas <wayne at codingvista.com> wrote:
>
> Mark Ng wrote:
> > On 06/07/07, Wayne Douglas <wayne at codingvista.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The other thing I like about ASP.NET is the fact that you would have to
> >> go out of your way to write crap - or be seriously lazy. The fact that,
> >> unless you wanted to do some rewriting of the wheel, you are pretty
> much
> >> forced to use an MVC approach to writing code, which forces nice,
> >> modular, loosely coupled, consistent code.
> >>
> >
> > This is equally the case using PHP and a good framework.  Symfony is a
> > good place to start.
> >
> >
> >> PHP - what I've seen of it, looks like ASP classic, tags with code in
> >> the html etc.
> >>
> >
> > That's as much the case as the person who writes code in it.
> >
> >
> >> Just my (admittedly biased) view.
> >>
> >
> > I'm glad that you see it as biased - I think you're attacking a
> > technology you have limited experience with (not that PHP doesn't its
> > flaws - they're just different from the ones you describe).
> >
> > Mark
> >
>
> Hang on - not attacking - defending!!
>
> But yeah, it annoys me when someone with no knowledge of a subject (or
> at least one sided) starts laying down their opinion as if it were
> gospel. I understand I have holes in my knowledge which is why I think
> threads like this are good. If there were enough hours in the day I'd be
> learning every language you could throw at me - as there's not, I have
> to choose the ones I learn wisely. For me developer efficiency is as
> important as the efficiency of the software itself. You can throw more
> hardware at code - I can't throw more developers at my projects. Not
> that the product suffers, I just need to be able to turn tricks fast.
> The tricks need to be stable, do what they should and be future proofed.
> I like coding - I'm a perfectionist with code - the code I write is
> re-factored to a  good level and is graceful.
>
> I read something the other day about a guy who'd lost out because he
> based his career around Borland. That to me was not a wise move - on
> multiple levels (Delphi ffs). And though I feel really bad for the guy,
> to me it was obvious that that was a walking time bomb.
>
> :)
>
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