[BNM] 1, 2, 3, 4, I declare a language war ! (was Hot news: Microsoft buys OScommerce!)

[Wayne Douglas]

Mark Ng wrote:
> On 06/07/07, Wayne Douglas <wayne at codingvista.com> wrote:
>   
>> The other thing I like about ASP.NET is the fact that you would have to
>> go out of your way to write crap - or be seriously lazy. The fact that,
>> unless you wanted to do some rewriting of the wheel, you are pretty much
>> forced to use an MVC approach to writing code, which forces nice,
>> modular, loosely coupled, consistent code.
>>     
>
> This is equally the case using PHP and a good framework.  Symfony is a
> good place to start.
>
>   
>> PHP - what I've seen of it, looks like ASP classic, tags with code in
>> the html etc.
>>     
>
> That's as much the case as the person who writes code in it.
>
>   
>> Just my (admittedly biased) view.
>>     
>
> I'm glad that you see it as biased - I think you're attacking a
> technology you have limited experience with (not that PHP doesn't its
> flaws - they're just different from the ones you describe).
>
> Mark
>   

Hang on - not attacking - defending!!

But yeah, it annoys me when someone with no knowledge of a subject (or 
at least one sided) starts laying down their opinion as if it were 
gospel. I understand I have holes in my knowledge which is why I think 
threads like this are good. If there were enough hours in the day I'd be 
learning every language you could throw at me - as there's not, I have 
to choose the ones I learn wisely. For me developer efficiency is as 
important as the efficiency of the software itself. You can throw more 
hardware at code - I can't throw more developers at my projects. Not 
that the product suffers, I just need to be able to turn tricks fast. 
The tricks need to be stable, do what they should and be future proofed. 
I like coding - I'm a perfectionist with code - the code I write is 
re-factored to a  good level and is graceful.

I read something the other day about a guy who'd lost out because he 
based his career around Borland. That to me was not a wise move - on 
multiple levels (Delphi ffs). And though I feel really bad for the guy, 
to me it was obvious that that was a walking time bomb.

:)

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